Do You Have to Do Ged Again for a Second Bachelors Degree

Hello all!
I've simply finished my kickoff yr doing physics at oxford, and I'm enjoying it.
It was a tough determination between physics and PPE for me though, and since coming to oxford I've but get more than interested in PPE. I'thou because doing the 3 year class for physics and then, if I got in, doing a second undergraduate caste of PPE (probably at oxford).
I've been looking at a few graduate prospectuses for alternatives, which say you lot're not required to take a previous qualification in economics etc. but it seems dizzy to miss out all the foundations of the subjects past not doing a related undergraduate degree first?
So my question is, would I exist immune to apply again equally an undergraduate (I'd have just turned 21 at the showtime of my start twelvemonth) to a 'normal' college, or would it need to be a mature students college?
Is this a vaguely mutual thing for people to exercise? and would I be greatly disadvantaged in the awarding process or only required to be as good as other, younger, successful applicants?
Basically, I'1000 actually interested in PPE and looking for any advice as to the all-time style of pursuing that interest subsequently I've completed my physics caste.
Thanks in advance for whatsoever assist!

All i know is, that if you have done one honours degree already, and go along to practise another caste, then Pupil Loans will Non requite you lot some other student loan. Be prepared to exist in some serious debt.

Ergh yes, I thought that might exist the case.
Information technology would be a hell of a lot of debt seems a shame to base of operations my education on financial issues though.

I have only establish a fairly useful paragraph of info on the oxford website well-nigh this.
http://www.ox.ac.uk/admissions/under...pplicants.html
if anyone'due south interested.

(Original post by windcriesmary)
Ergh yeah, I thought that might exist the case.
It would be a hell of a lot of debt seems a shame to base my education on financial bug though.

I have just plant a adequately useful paragraph of info on the oxford website about this.
http://www.ox.air-conditioning.uk/admissions/under...pplicants.html
if anyone's interested.

You besides have to pay the college fee, and then you're looking at 8k a year tuition and no student loan. Information technology'southward a actually rubbish financial deal.

That said, information technology's not totally unusual. PPE and law are the most common second BAs and most of the undergrad colleges do take students for the 2nd BA (only there are a couple of exceptions - New beingness one, I retrieve?). You may as well exist eligible for senior status, which would cut a year off the qualification.

(Original post by windcriesmary)
Hullo all!
I've but finished my start twelvemonth doing physics at oxford, and I'thou enjoying information technology.
It was a tough decision between physics and PPE for me though, and since coming to oxford I've only become more interested in PPE. I'm considering doing the 3 year class for physics and then, if I got in, doing a second undergraduate degree of PPE (probably at oxford).
I've been looking at a few graduate prospectuses for alternatives, which say you lot're not required to have a previous qualification in economic science etc. but information technology seems featherbrained to miss out all the foundations of the subjects by not doing a related undergraduate degree outset?
And so my question is, would I be allowed to apply over again every bit an undergraduate (I'd have simply turned 21 at the get-go of my first year) to a 'normal' college, or would it demand to be a mature students higher?
Is this a vaguely common thing for people to do? and would I be greatly disadvantaged in the application procedure or but required to be as good as other, younger, successful applicants?
Basically, I'chiliad actually interested in PPE and looking for any advice as to the best way of pursuing that interest after I've completed my physics degree.
Thanks in advance for any help!

If information technology's but economic science you lot're interested, get the route Edders took and do a postgraduate course in Economics after your physics degree - save yourself paying the total toll (~£12,000 per annum) of a 3 yr PPE degree.

A masters in economics that doesn't crave an undergrad caste in economics wouldn't miss out on the foundations of the subject- that just wouldn't make any sense otherwise.

he all the same wouldn't accept to pay full cost- he'd be paying £3K + college fee, without loan to comprehend them, but he'd still get the maintenence loan.

You hateful they don't teach PPPE? What a jip

I dont run across what value another BA would give you tbh. What practice you actually want to do? You're ameliorate off doing a MA. If you just savor learning about PPE so theres goose egg to finish y'all doing that privately afterwards.

Is it simply a case of avoiding real work for as long as possible? I mean nosotros'd all love to do that

Personally (unless you can beget to indulge your educational appetite ) I don't recollect it sounds worth it to do a whole undergraduate just so you can practise PPE. What career do yous want in the future? Would doing PPE help you towards that, or are you just wanting to practice it 'only considering'? Every bit people have been proverb - are there no ane twelvemonth postgraduate qualifications y'all could perhaps consider?

I'grand doing SS Law at Cambridge, but that's only considering 1) I wanted to give myself a scrap of an advantage (imo) over all the CPE/GDL people and 2) I uncertainty I would've been able to practice an LLM with my first degree.

Every bit regards applications, I doubt you lot'd be at a disadvantage - in fact, I always think mature students (who accept already done a degree) are in a better position than those fresh out of school. Non only have you got a degree under your chugalug already, merely you know how the interview system works, you've settled at the university (as you're staying at Oxford) etc etc. Too, unless it'south specifically stated by a higher that they don't take mature undergrads, then you'd be gratuitous to utilize to whatever of them.

However, at the cease of the twenty-four hours, the main issue here seems to be funding, so if you think you can manage it financially, and then y'all might as well - who are we to tell yous non to keep learning?

Hey, I don't know if this volition be any utilize to you but I've establish an MA in PPE at York:

http://www.york.air conditioning.u.k./depts/pep/grad...ions/index.htm

(Original mail by thomasjtl)
he still wouldn't have to pay total cost- he'd be paying £3K + college fee, without loan to cover them, but he'd still get the maintenence loan.

This is wrong, incidentally - you don't become a maintenance loan, a tuitition fee loan, null (or at least, that was certainly what I discovered when looking into it concluding year, so unless they've changed the system since that remains the case).

Equally of next year, universities are also able to charge more than the maximum tuition fees for first time undergraduates nether the ELQ scheme. So really, they can accuse as much as they similar.

You're correct, i'd forgotten that they were doing away with the correct to funding for a second degree. Last time i checked it, though, you could still become a maintenence loan.

(Original post by thomasjtl)
You're right, i'd forgotten that they were doing abroad with the right to funding for a second degree. Last time i checked it, though, you lot could still get a maintenence loan.

Nah, not unless you practise a medical degree or one leading to a professional qualification (except law).

I thought if you practice do PPE as a second degree at Oxford, information technology merely took two years every bit opppose to three?

(Original post by hermaphrodite)
I thought if you lot do do PPE as a second degree at Oxford, it only took two years every bit opppose to 3?

That'southward if you choose to do information technology as a 'mature' student (i.e. you have a prior degree) - if you lot wanted to you lot could yet practice the normal three yr undergrad.

(Original postal service by Advertizement-Alta)
That'south if you choose to practise it as a 'mature' student (i.e. y'all have a prior degree) - if you wanted to you could still do the normal three year undergrad.

'Mature' usually just ways over 21 (arbitrary every bit the age at which a standard schoolhouse leaver would have finished a three year undergrad degree) rather than having a prior caste at honours level.

Mature Students at Oxford

Tutors will accept work experience and life skills into business relationship, aslope academic or professional person qualifications but candidates would be expected to have at least the equivalent of two skilful recent A-levels in social club to make a competitive application. This could include Access to College Education qualifications, Open up University courses, foundation degrees, HNDs or other qualifications.

Being 'mature' means yous can apply to Harris Manchester & might alter the way accommodation/practical things work at other colleges.

It's doing a *2nd* undergraduate degree (rather than just being an older educatee) where you lot can use to gain "Senior status", but the wording makes information technology sound like that'due south an boosted affair to sort rather than the automatic norm.

Graduate Applicants to Undergraduate Courses at Oxford

Candidates may use for 'Senior Status', which gives them straight entry to the 2d twelvemonth of the course. However, Senior Condition is not automatically granted: the benchmark for achieving such status is an canonical degree at an approved academy, obtained after courses extending over at to the lowest degree three years at that university.

If you accept an undergraduate degree, but want to utilize every bit a 'mature' student, is that possible?

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